DOUGLAS MOTOR CYCLE

Dad (Bib) front and Ron middle together with Horace Chetwyn the Isle of Man TT races just before the war.

Ron and Bib bought a Douglas twin flat engine 250cc motorbike for £12.50 and shared it as they couldn't afford their own ! something like this :

DIED AFTER COLLISION

Victor Daniel Baker died on June 4th 1949 aged 57.

He was returning from work at Morley's in Kings Newton when he was in collision with a Laban's lorry at the junction of Chapel Street, Packhorse Road and Station Road. Heading for the alley way between Chapel Street and Derby Road I think.

I managed to obtain a newspaper cutting from the Derby Evening Telegraph 5th June 1947 reporting the accident.

RMS ORSOVA

Victor Daniel Baker went to Australia 21st January 1910 on RMS Orsova

The liner RMS Orsova, built for the Orient Steam Navigation Co at John Brown & Co's Clydebank Shipyard, during sea trials in the Firth of Clyde in 1909. In addition to accommodation for 1076 passengers, the 12,000-ton liner had 100,000 cubic feet of refrigerated cargo space. Coming at a time of depression in the shipbuilding industry, the order for the Orsova was most welcome at the Clydebank yard, as it was the largest of only three ships laid down during 1908.Orsova made the first of what would be seventy voyages to Australia in 1909. During the First World War she was used as a troopship, carrying Australian soldiers to various theatres of war. She survived being torpedoed in the English Channel in 1917, and resumed commercial service to Australia for the Orient Line in 1919. In 1933, Orsova was converted to a tourist class ship and finally served briefly as a cruise ship before being scrapped in 1936.

He returned on RMS Otranto and arrived back in England on 27th April 1915

RMS OTRANTO

He worked as a construction worker in the Outback

He either went with his friend Fred Smith or met him on his travels.

FAMILY WEDDING PHOTO

Photo taken at Laurence and Christine's wedding 1959 -

obviously I wasn't invited as I was only 3 months old !

L-R back: Ron, Gerald, Jenny, Maurice Wileman, Madge, Betty, Maurice Baker, Bib, Betty (Laban), Harold Timmins, unknown, Jessie.

Kids: Richard, Carol, Liz, Tony, Robert, Roger, Brian, Janet.

ETHEL MAY BAKER PROFILE

A later photo of Ethel May

MORE EARLY PHOTO'S

Maurice with Laurence on left and Gerald taken at
Kings Newton


Madge with Gerald on left and Laurence taken at Kings Newton

MORE EARLY PHOTO'S

Daniel Ernest bottom right Ron top left

EARLY FAMILY PHOTO'S

left Daniel Ernest, top Ronald, Right Jessie, bottom Madge



Daniel Ernest and Marjorie aka Bib and Madge !

ETHEL MAY BAKER NEE YATES EARLY PHOTO'S

VICTOR DANIEL BAKER PROFILE

Victor Daniel Baker was born on 7th April 1890 at 210 Stockbrook Street in Derby.

His parents were Bruce Baker b. 1859 from Serrat in Hampshire, who worked as a 'colliery banksman'.

His mother was Emma Adams b. 1858 in Chesham, Bucks. She was a cook in London.

Victor Daniel was the eldest of 5 children.

He had three brothers William, Roland and Reginald and a sister Elsie.

Roland 'Role' used to visit the family in Kings Newton every year or so but not a lot is known about the rest ofVictor's family.

He worked for most of his life as a farm labourer - he worked at Morley's farm in Kings Newton.

Being poorly paid as a gardener for a local vicar he went on a £10 ticket to Australia, in January 1910. He arrived back in England on 26th April 1915. Ethel May waited for him during this time and they married in October of 1915.

At first they lived at Morley Hayes - the farm where Ethel May's parents farmed. Then they moved to Kings Newton around 1920-23 presumably for Victor's job at Morley's farm nearby.

The family then eventually moved to 82 Derby Road, Melbourne (opposite the Legion Club) on 17th April 1941.

Victor Daniel was killed in a tragic cycle accident at the bottom of Packhorse Road on 4th June 1947.

WEDDING PHOTO VICTOR DANIEL AND ETHEL MAY BAKER

Victor Daniel Baker and Ethel May Yates

married at the Parish Church Morley Derbyshire

on 6th October 1915

back row - Hilda Yates (brides sister) Elizabeth Yates (nee Tudor - brides mother) Fred Smith (Victor's friend who later married Hilda) Ernest Yates (Brides father) Ada Yates (Brides sister)

seated Victor Daniel and Ethel May

ITEM OF MY LIFE BY ETHEL MAY YATES

A short passage written by Ethel May yates gives some information on her life ;

' I was born on 31st December 1892 at Brown House, Ashleyhay near Wirksworth, Derbyshire. I lived here 13 years.

My mother and father were Ernest and Elizabeth Yates.

I went to Idridgehay School and Church Sunday School.

My 3 sisters are Hilda, Ada and Jessie and brother William Ernest.

My Grandparents lived at Brailsford - the Mount. Mrs Yates, Aunt Nellie and Uncle Fred.

My other Grandparents were Mr and Mrs T Tudor of Mount Pleasant, Doveridge, near Uttoxeter Staffordshire.

When I was 13 years old we left Brown House to live at Hayes Farm, Morley. Farmhouse of 14 rooms.

I was confirmed on 10th March 1907 at Morley Church by the Bishop of Southwell - aged 15, a beautiful day, we had tea in the recreation room.'

YATES FAMILY TREE

YATES FAMILY TREE

Hamlet Yates (my great great grandfather) born. 1778/9 died 1853 aged 75

married 10.11.1801 at Church Gresley, Derbyshire

Eleanor Elton (her parents were John and Mary Elton of Oakerthorpe)

Son Hamlet Yates (junior) born. 1804 died.1874 aged 70
Farmer at Brailsford Old Park – 223 acres and 4 labourers

Married twice

First wife - Sarah Allen (daughter of William Allen of Muggington)
Born 1819 died 26.03.1857 aged 38

Married 09.08.1841 – they had a number of children which may have included Sarah, William, John, Elizabeth, Henry, Hamlet, Mary Ann (it is difficult to work out from the census information who belonged to who)

Second wife – Mary Millington born. 1838 died. 09.06.1925 aged 87
Her father was William Millington a labourer
Married 26.03.1857 at the Parish Church Kniveton
Hamlet was 53 years old and Mary 20
They had :
Tom
Edward
Trevor
Owen
Lewis
Fred
Ernest
Following the death of Hamlet in 1874 when she was 36 Mary continued farming at Brailsford – Cuscas farm
Hamlet is buried in Brailsford Church Yard between his two wives !

Ernest Yates (Great Grandfather) born 1866 died
Farmer at Ashleyhay, Derbyshire

Married 1891 in Ashbourne

Elizabeth Tudor born 1862 Basford, Staffordshire
Her father was Thomas Tudor a farmer. At the time of her marriage she was living at Alkmonton, Bentley, Derbyshire.

Family lived at Brown House, Ashleyhay, Derbyshire
And later at Hayes Farm, Morley

They had :
Ethel May (Grandmother) born 31.12.1892 died 25.05.1955 aged 63
Hilda Mary married Fred Smith and had Gladys and Daisy
Ada Elizabeth - didn’t marry
William
Jessie Victoria married Guy Brighouse and had Pat and Joan

Ethel May Yates married Victor Daniel Baker 06.10.1915

PHOTO VICTOR DANIEL BAKER IN OZ

Photo taken at studio's in Sydney Australia

Victor Daniel on left holding wheel of car

TUDOR FAMILY TREE

Thomas Tudor (or William Thomas) Great Great Grandfather
Born 1831 died 31.10.1911 aged 80
Farmed 92 acres
Lived at Basford Hall Farm, Cheddleton, Staffordshire

Married 1859

Harriet Hill born 1833 died 25.12.1915 aged 83
Buried in St Cuthberts Church Yard, Doveridge, Derbyshire

They had five children :

Mary – not married
Thomas – 7 children
Elizabeth
Richard – 3 sons
William

Elizabeth Tudor (Great Grandmother) born 1862 at Basford, Staffordshire

Married 1891 Ashbourne

Ernest Yates (Great Grandfather)born 1866 Brailsford

They had
Ethel May (Grandmother)
Hilda Mary
Ada Elizabeth
William
Jessie Victoria

Ethel May Yates married Victor Daniel Baker

ERNEST YATES

Ernest Yates born 1866
no information on military service.....

ERNEST YATES AND ELIZABETH TUDOR

Ethel May Yates' parents were :

Ernest Yates
b.1866 Brailsford, Derbyshire
farmer at Ashleyhay, Derbyshire

married 1891 Ashbourne

Elizabeth Tudor
b. 1862
Basford, Staffordshire

They had five children :

1. Ethel May (my Grandmother)

2. Hilda Mary (who later married Fred Smith - friend of Victor Daniel - they went to Australia together.

3. Ada Elizabeth - she had cerebral palsy. did not marry. lived later life in Spondon Derby - next door to Jessie who helped care for her.

4. William - farmed at Morley Hayes and eventually sold land off for housing.

5. Jessie Victoria - married Fred Smith and lived at Etwall

VICTOR DANIEL BAKER MARRIED ETHEL MAY YATES

Victor Daniel Baker married Ethel May Yates
they were married on October 6th 1915
at the Parish Church Morley
witnessed by Hilda Yates and Fred Smith
Victor was a labourer at the time as was his father Bruce Baker
Ethel's father Ernest was a farmer

Victor was born 7th April 1890 at 210 Stockbrook Street, Derby
He died on 4th June 1949 following a cycling accident in Castle Street, Melbourne.

Ethel was born on 31st December 1892 at Ashleyhay in North Derbyshire.
she died on 25rh May 1955 in Melbourne.

They had eight children..............

1. Victor Ronald (Uncle Ron) m Elizabeth Dransfield on 25th December 1939
b. 17th April 1916 at Hayes Farm Morley

2. Daniel Ernest (Uncle Bib) m Helena (Ena) Tivey (my parents) 9th September 1942
b. 25th December 1917 at Hayes Farm Morley

3. Jessie May m Harold Timmins on 25th July 1942
b. 22nd March 1920 at Hayes Farm Morley

5. Marjory m Maurice Wileman on June 15th 1946
b. 9th February 1923 at Kings Newton Melbourne

6. Maurice m. Eizabeth Laban May 1949
b. 3rd February 1926 Kings Newton Melbourne

6. Edith (died at 3 weeks old) buried on 23rd Feb 1925 in Melbourne Cemetery
Grave 3010 class 3rd - info from burial book no 4 entry 3573 (no gravestone)

7. Gerald William m Jennifer Beech on
b. 3rd February 1929

8. Laurence Arthur m Christina Hunt on 25th July 1959
b. 6th September 1931